With one of Franceโs biggest collector clubs, an online publication, and a soon-to-launch watch auction platform to manage; itโs little wonder why Mateo Rossi hasnโt found the time yet to take a clear and unobscured profile pic.
All kidding aside, the young founder of Le Paris Watch Club and Unekual is largely interested in letting the quality of his endeavours speak for themselves: among the chief reasons why โ despite his own threadbare presence on social media โ he has been referred to as โthe MVP of under-30 watch fans in France.โ
Despite his relative youth โ and indeed, likely because of it โ Rossi has demonstrated a keen knack for what makes younger collectors (many of whom fall squarely into the โNext Generationโ of luxury consumers) tick.
As a thought leader in the watch community, he has prioritised small and creatively authentic collaborations with brands (in so doing, contributing to the desirability of the various Le Paris Watch Club special editions); and over at Unekual, his own writing โ focused on collecting old/neo-vintage Patek Philippe โ is clear, concise and indelibly informed by firsthand experience.
Very much an inveterate flier (who splits his time for work between Europe and the UAE) Boss Hunting managed to wrangle Rossi for a half-hour chat over Zoom.
Check out the full interview below:
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Collectorโs Corner: Meet Mateo Rossi, Founder Of Le Paris Watch Club & Vintage Patek โUltra Fanโ
Randy Lai: Itโs something we commonly ask all of our interviewees, but what was the first watch you ever owned that kickstarted your passion for collecting?
Mateo Rossi: The first watch I ever owned was a Ripcurl I bought in a factory outlet in Queensland โ true story.
The indices fell off after only a year of wear, but I loved it. Iโve always been fascinated by mechanical things and the fact that my grandfather was a watchmaker definitely helped stoke that passion.
RL: No kidding. So, if I were to rephrase, how about your first โseriousโ watch purchase?
MR: Well, my first Patek was a Ref. 5065a [Aquanaut] โ I put that on a khaki strap and wore it every day. I ended up trading it for a Ref. 3700 [Nautilus] a few years later but have missed that watch ever since. Several months ago, I got one back in a deal and couldnโt be happier.
One of the joys of collecting vintage is having the opportunity to rotate watches around, falling in and out of love with a reference โ thatโs whatโs fun.
RL: I think itโs probably fair to say that youโre a young collector. As somebody whoโs deep into watch collecting in their twenties, whatโs one big misconception watch brands continue to have when dealing with millennial/Gen Z customers?
MR: For the longest time, brands wouldnโt be considerate of younger clients when you walk into a store. Iโve personally had a few terrible experiences with brands โ some a while back, others more recently โ and thatโs part of the reason why, for the most part, Iโve decided to stick to vintage.
RL: Thatโs an interesting take. So you have terrible customer service to thank for your pivot toward vintage [laughs]โฆ
MR: I think many collectors are following this trend โ especially in the wake of Covid, after so many brands treated their long-time clients very poorly in pursuit of quick cash. I think the price drop on the secondary market reflects collectorsโ sentiments in that regard.
Another thing is that brands almost always assume young clients are flippers โ from my experience, itโs actually the older guys who flip products straight out of the store.
RL: In the past, youโve spoken about how so many of the big glossy watch magazines/websites arenโt doing enough to make their content enjoyable for a wider audience. What are 2 or 3 examples that you think are actually nailing things?
MR: I think SJX is the most honest voice in the ecosystem of traditional horological publication. Then again, it remains traditional journalism โ I donโt see it garnering attention from people who arenโt already into watches.
Funnily, Iโve seen guys on TikTok who are doing some interesting content to attract a crowd who werenโt previously into watches. Through fashion, these accounts help to advance understanding and exposure, among like-minded content creators, for the beauty of horology.
On the other hand, if you want some really nerdy Instagram content, accounts like @horology_ancienne and @pieceunique_ are great.
RL: As founder of Le Paris Watch Club, tell us a little about the behind-the-scenes work that goes into working with a brand on members-only releasesโฆ
MR: Itโs a lot more work than I thought [laughs]. Between brands and their ego โ and collectors and their egos โ itโs akin to walking in a minefield. At first, I tried to please everybody and let them have their input in the design process โ but it was just impossible.
Today, I deal with all the crucial decisions (e.g. model, metal, design) from start to finish; and then offer our members a final product that they buy directly from the brand. For collectabilityโs sake, we try to keep such series as limited as possible.
In general, the entire process takes close to two years.
RL: Do you have a favourite โclub watchโ youโve worked on recently?
MR: Definitely the Tank Cintrรฉe we did with Cartier in 2021. It was our first limited edition and we only made 6 of them in platinum.
The dial is a matte blue but, depending on lighting, varies from a dark navy (almost black), to a light royal blue or at times even purple. Itโs incredibly cool and I still have no idea how the brand made it [laughs].
For Le Paris Watch Club, it was also the perfect brand for us to start with โ Cartier being the French maison.
RL: You recently profiled a couple of Patek Philippe references, as part of โGENEVA Watch Auction: Nineโ, on YouTube. Talk us through those pieces and some of the lots more broadly at auction you were happy to see being shown love by collectors.
MR: As an ultra fan of vintage Patek Iโm always thrilled to see less obvious references get the recognition they deserve.
I was very happy to see the first series of 2497R [with cases made by Vichet] perform so well at Christieโs โ itโs a reference Iโve loved ever since I tried one a few years ago (right off the wrist of Jason Singer).
The 2577R recently offered by Phillips was also great to see in the metal โ itโs an extremely rare reference that hardly ever comes up for sale.
One watch Iโm sure shall garner lots more attention in future is the Ref. 3424 designed by Gilbert Albert โ these are exceptionally rare pieces that have a similar aesthetical vibe to the Cartier Crash. However, being Patek, they were made much earlier; for a shorter period; in a far smaller production.
RL: On your own quote โnot horological journalismโ unquote platform Unekual, youโve described the Patek 3970 as one of the watches thatโs the most fun to wear and collect. Would you mind explaining that in a little more detail?
MR: Iโm a huge fan of the Ref. 3970 for multiple reasons. The size to me, at 36mm, is amazing โ despite being produced quite recently they look vintage and remain much more wearable than [other iconic references like the] 1518 or 2499.
The other amazing thing about the 3970 is the variety within its production. Among the four series produced between 1986 and the early 2000s, the first two were still handmade.
Depending on your taste, you can look for large hallmarks; snap backs; two-tone dials; leaf hands; sword hands; dorรฉ dials; sapphire casebacks; diamond indices โ thereโs so much within this one reference that itโs quite incredible.
RL: Alrighty โ quick hypothetical round. You can only wear two watches for the rest of your life. Gun to the head: what are they?
MR: That sounds awful [laughs].
But, with a theoretically unlimited budget, Iโd love to own one of the only three Ref. 3449s as a dress watch; and a 3700J with a lapis dial for my sports watch.
Honestly though, if you were to ask me again tomorrow, Iโd probably give a completely different answer.
RL: And to finish, are there any watches youโre currently on the hunt for/close to pulling the trigger on?
MR: Iโd love to own a Ref. 5004 โ the inset pusher on the crown (for the split-second mechanism) just looks so cool. Iโve also been looking into the Ref. 2497 a lot.
Between the two the latter seems like the better option. Compared with any other Patek grand complication, theyโre just so much rarer: with only 179 movements shared between the Ref. 2497 and Ref. 2438.