When Jason Momoa appears on my screen for our scheduled Zoom call, thereโs a brief moment of confusion.
There he was in his homeland of Hawaii when reports indicated production was officially underway for both Dune: Part Three over in Hungary โ which heโs set to headline alongside his son Nakoa-Wolf Momoa โ and the forthcoming Street Fighter adaptation heโs signed on for right here in Sydney.
So just how many Jason Momoas are there globetrotting for all these projects?
โI was also in Birmingham with Black Sabbath, and I just played a concert in Milwaukee yesterdayโฆ Welcome to my life, bro,โ he chuckles after a delightfully boisterous โGโday mateโ that set the tone for our conversation.
Full calendar aside, the focus of todayโs conversation was his latest passion project: reuniting with Apple TV+ for the historical miniseries Chief of War.
Somewhere between Disney+โs Shogun and the Travis Fimmel-led Vikings โ and having already drawn obvious comparisons to Game of Thrones โ the drama depicts the unification of the Hawaiian islands when the four major kingdoms (Hawaiสปi, Maui, Oสปahu, Kauaสปi) were still at war with one another. Compelling realpolitik, Hans Zimmer score, and all.
The story begins towards the end of the 18th century and is framed from the perspective of legendary warrior chief Kaโiana (Jason Momoa), who returns to familiar shores after exploring the world to join a bloody campaign.
Momoa co-created the limited series alongside Thomas Paโa Sibbett.
โThis wouldnโt have been possible without the help of Aotearoa or our Kiwi brothers,โ he admitted about New Zealand as the core location for principal photography and the โmelting potโ of an almost entirely Polynesian cast.
โIt was unbelievable. At the end of the day, what this offered was a beautiful unification of Polynesia โ not only my cast and crew. You see something that hasnโt been done on this level with so many different cultures that care, coming together and learning this language [ลlelo Hawaiสปi], and bringing the best Polynesian A-talent on screen.โ
Jason Momoa continued: โI think once this comes out, kids in Tahiti and Fiji and Vanuatu, I mean everywhere โ even in Australia โ itโs going to be a massive win for Polynesian representation.โ
โOnce Were Warriors was everything to me. Growing up, I looked up to Cliff Curtis and Temuera Morrison. Those were really the only two brown-skinned guys I had that were just like, โWho am I going to be? Who can I follow in the footsteps of?โ And look how great they are as actors. Hopefully, this can be the same for the next generation.โ
โA lot of people come to Hawaii, they take beautiful memories back to their homes. And now, theyโll get to see what was here: a culture that they may not have known. Iโm excited for them to see that.โ
Where do you even begin with a role as larger-than-life as Kaโiana? The famed ruler who voyaged everywhere from Kauaโi to Canton (otherwise known as Chinaโs Guangzhou) and rebelled against Kamehameha I.
A cursory glance at his Wikipedia entry would confirm that Chief of War couldโve easily spanned several seasons. But Momoa and Paโa Sibbett had the discipline to โtighten the timeframeโ for a single epic run, while still preserving the cadence of historical events.
โThere were certain story points that just had to happen,โ explained Jason Momoa.
โUltimately, Kaโiana was a vehicle for us to really talk about what was happening here in Hawaiiโฆ Thereโs no way I could tell Kaโianaโs complete story. Itโs just too much. There were so many beautiful kings and queens that we had. So it became about making something impactful that would be able to tell a broad story.โ
โI would never play those other characters, either. I just donโt have that in me,โ he added.
โEven if someone offered me $20 million to play Kamehameha, I was like, โThereโs no f**king way. Iโm not doing it.โ I would never do it, it doesnโt matter. I donโt have that in me (nor would I ever want to play that).โ
It also helps that Momoa considers Kaโiana by far and away the most compelling assignment: โYou get to be this man whoโs obviously a reluctant warrior, who doesnโt want to be chief, and who doesnโt want to go to war anymore.โ
โThe things that heโs seen, the PTSD from his father and the trauma heโs endured. And then when he leaves to go see the world โ he sees slavery, poverty, whatโs coming for them. Then to come back, but heโs poisoned by the outside world.โ
โHis whole perspective has changed. Thereโs no f**king gods out there. They do whatever the hell they want and this is comingโฆ Itโs wonderfully complex to play as an actor, know what I mean? You try to figure out what heโs thinking. That s**tโs interesting to play, man.โ
Much like the vast majority of his roles, Jason Momoa cuts an imposing figure in Chief of War. More powerlifter than underwear model, remarkably enough, his physical gravitas as Kaโiana dwarfs his portrayal as a literal comic book superhero.
Though this preparation (or rather lack thereof) may surprise you.
โIโm not going to lie to you, bro. I donโt really train. I donโt have time for that,โ he replied with a shrug, alluding to the juggling act of leading man, co-creator, and, for the series finale, director.
โIโm a big fan of eating and drinking, and I work really hard. Like sure, Iโll have some Guinness. But that ainโt doing s**t to me. Iโm f**king flying at the speed of light, running around a lava field in a malo. Weโre writing, directing, making all these choices, learning a language that I donโt know, helping everyone on set and cast to pull off this massive undertaking.โ
Momoa continued: โSo Iโm shovelling in food just because I need fuel. Iโm not sitting down, dude, Iโm living every moment of itโฆ Iโve been doing stunts for 27 years. If I need to do some squats to keep my legs alive, stretching is good. But I donโt have time to go to the gym and hit s**t.โ
Sadly, the run-and-gun approach to becoming screen-fit isnโt approved for every gig he takes on. Such is the case for his hotly anticipated return to a certain sci-fi universe conceived by Frank Herbert (and wonderfully translated to the big screen by Denis Villeneuve).
โFor Dune, I have to lose a significant amount of weight, so Iโll start training soon,โ Jason Momoa grimaced.
โI like training for characters in the sense of fight training. So Iโm doing a lot of boxing right now. Weโll do a lot of sword training. Iโll cut a lot of weight to play Duncan Idaho, which just means eating healthier or less, you know what I mean? And try not to drink as much. Whereas normally, Iโm constantly active. Iโm running around the planet in 10 different directions, so Iโm burning something.โ
He caveated this immediately after with the following: โIโm not saying itโs the healthiest way to live, but Iโm living my life. Iโm doing everything Iโve ever dreamed of. I have a beautiful lady [Adria Arjona] Iโm in love with. I have children that Iโm dying to always constantly be with, and a career that Iโm doing everything I want to do.โ
On top of all this, Momoa outlines the 20-person business he maintains to handle the many fingers he has in just as many pies, his advocacy efforts surrounding environmentalism (whatโs usually a full-time endeavour on its own), as well as all the politics that come with both Hollywood and activism.
โThereโs just tonnes of stuff to do and a whole lot of life to liveโฆ so Iโll try to be healthier, but thereโs nothing quite like just cracking a f**king brew.โ
โDamn, you made me thirsty. Iโm going to need another one, man,โ he chuckled.
If thereโs one thing Jason Momoa makes abundantly clear, itโs that heโs nourished in every possible sense. Even in the chaos of his professional day-to-day, there is a never-ending well of gratitude he can drink from.
And when itโs time to refresh the soul before he charges back into battle?
โMotorcycles. No doubt. Mostly getting in the wind and being with friends and riding in the windโฆ Itโs a beautiful thing, man. I love motorcycles (fixing โem and riding them),โ he offered.
โPlaying musicโs been really beautiful too. I feel like I get my life back when I play music. Life kind of pauses when youโre actually creating. Music fills you back up.โ
Chief of War, starring Jason Momoa, Luciane Buchanan, Temuera Morrison, and plenty more, is now streaming via Apple TV+.